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#1 SOL SNAKE

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Posted 24 July 2016 - 02:03 AM

hi guyz! :D

 

Assalaamu Alaikum! :)
(Peace be with you!)

ok, im going to post about scout,

being as a SUICIDE BOMBER(Booooom!!)

 

having a Suicide Bomber in a Squad for PVP Battle..

makes the PVP Battle easy...

Why? because the SUICIDE BOMBER is like similar to AIR STRIKE ....

the only difference is that...

AIR STRIKE is an attack coming from the Air...
and it can only used once...(1 stage battle)
 

while the SUICIDE BOMBER is an attack coming from the ground....

and it can also be used once...
after that, the Suicide Bomber will be killed (or survived if his lucky :D )...

his PRIMARY GOAL is to throw Grenade to an Enemy Squad and then Boom!

Mission Accomplished!

 

ok.. here is a video of a Suicide Bomber...
his really kinda useful.. :)

 

as you can see in the video...

the Scout (Suicide Bomber) throws Vacuum Grenade to an enemy squad..
and then damaged all the enemy squad within the maximum range of Vacuum Grenade..

and he end up being killed (basically injured :D )...
because of enemies' Damage Reflection skills...

 

here is a figure of a Vacuum Grenade Range...
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assuming that the Blue Circle is the point where the Vacuum Grenade Landed..
and that Red Circle is the Splash Damage...
anyone that is within that range will get damaged..
The White Circle is a target that is not reachable by Vacuum Grenade..
the troop within that white circle will not get damaged...
 

if the Vacuum Grenade landed at No. 3

then you are Lucky... :D

well we know that the best position of a trooper with Provoker Skills...

is at the first or last position..
and most likely we can have is the No. 1 :D
 

Required Troop: Scout

Recommended Stat: +2 Accuracy , +2 Attack

Skills: 1 Vacuum Grenade + 3 Rage

 

Suicide Bomber Objective:

Throws Vacuum Grenade to an Enemy Squad, damaging all the enemy troops within the grenade's maximum range...

and says to his comrade...

(Goodbye my Friends!... i have done my JOB and I need to sleep :D .. do the Clean-Up for me pls ... :D )


 

if this post helps you..
pls let me know and hit like...


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#2 El_Comandante

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Posted 24 July 2016 - 06:52 AM

This strategy works well with squads with no meatgrinder troopers. Won't work on high training squads with 40-50% meatgrinders+



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Posted 24 July 2016 - 09:03 AM

for me...

the best situation for using the SUICIDE BOMBER is when the enemy squad has no SPY (with wormholes or teleportation)

if the enemy has no SPY who can teleport near you, then this is the best chance to use SUICIDE BOMBER..

 

the reason why you must Avoid Squad with SPY with teleportation/ wormhole skills is because ..

to avoid friendly fire....

just like this one battle of mine...

(i intentionally used suicide bomber in this video for the sake of observation)

 

if there are no enemy SPY then try to look for enemy who has this squad:

  • the enemy who is in position from 1 to 4 has LOW ARMOR

the reason you need to look first the position 1 to 4,

is because you need to kill atleast 1 enemy troops before your SUICIDE BOMBER dies...(so that its worth it)

and if you can't killl atleast 1 enemy troops using your vacuum grenade...

then atleast you damaged them with more than 50% of their HP.

 

then it will be Mission Accomplished...




now, if the enemy squad has SPY who can teleport near you...
just like the video above...

then you need to equip your SUICIDE BOMBER with SHOTGUN weapon...

reason is ... when the enemy SPY teleports near you...

then your SUICIDE BOMBER (now become Suicide Troop)

will hit that SPY and possible it will kill them...

or it will PUSH them away from you...

 

once that SPY is down....
or PUSHED away...

then your 2nd Troop with Vacuum Grenade will throw his grenade directly to enemy squad :D
watch this video..


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Posted 18 August 2016 - 05:41 PM

It's because of this post that I have one pure offense Scout guy (he's at 120 attack now). I haven't used him yet, but I'll be sure to drop you a note once he gets that Triple Kill  :D  :D  :D

 

By the way, why would someone invest on this over a "Suicide Hard Rock Hallelujah-Guy"?


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#5 SOL SNAKE

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Posted 18 August 2016 - 06:01 PM

 

why would someone invest on this over a "Suicide Hard Rock Hallelujah-Guy"?

i would like to answer your question...

 

for me ...

reason i choose Scout over the Gunner (Suicide Hard Rock Halleluyah)..

is because Scout can boost their offensive stat with Rage...

my ideal Suicide Bomber Scout is having equipped with (1 vacuum grenade, 3x Rage)..

by using 3x Rage... the offensive stat will increase +60 Attack...

 

 

whereas the Gunner...

or the Suicide HardRock Halleluyah Guy..

 

we all know that Gunner dont have Rage Skill...

that increases their offensive stat..

they have 1 skill actually...

and that is Laser Sight..

that gives you a boost of +60 Accuracy (3x Laser Sight)

 

BUT...

HardRock's Damage are purely Attack based..

and don't have Accuracy...

 

try to check that hardRock stat..

 

if you add Accuracy to HardRock..

then there will be no effect...

 

i already tried in myself :D

 

UPDATED:

 

ACCURACY helps in increasing the damage


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Posted 19 August 2016 - 01:34 AM

Makes sense.. Thanks for your reply!

 

But still, Hard Rock Hallelujah hits enemies at spots #5 and #6, where usually the weak-defense troopers are positioned.

 

Anyway, thanks again. One more question, if my trooper dies from Damage Reflection, does it always get Scratch? (less than 10 minutes recovery time)? Also, is there a chance to break a skill when that happens?


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#7 SOL SNAKE

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Posted 19 August 2016 - 03:07 AM

spot #5 and #6 is always the Weakest Defense troop...but High Damage..

But... they are easily to deal with...

especially by equipping your troop with damage reflection ...

at least 2 of your troop are equipped with damage reflection or Karma..

 

 

if my trooper dies from Damage Reflection, does it always get Scratch? (less than 10 minutes recovery time)? Also, is there a chance to break a skill when that happens?

 

Trooper or any troop that dies from Damage Reflection Skill will just end up Scratch..

it always end up Scratch... thats the advantage of it...

and you dont need to worry about his skills being broken..

because damage reflection don't break skills or damage skills..

 

UNLESS...

if a SNIPER really hits them..

and end up being Critical Damage...


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Posted 29 August 2016 - 10:04 PM

 i would like to update my post about this "Suicide Bomber"...

(actually i already updated my main post above)..

since i am currently experimenting and comparing the two training which is..

  • +3 attack
  • +2 accuracy, +2 attack

my conclusion is that...

+2 accuracy, +2 attack

deals more damage compare to the +3 attack training..

because Accuracy  really help increase the amount of damage

aside from its critical ability...

 

and if you compare the two troop with same level ...

the difference is doubled..

 

for example:

 

troop A: lv 40 training (1 accuracy, 125 attack)

troop B: lv 40 training (79 accuracy, 86 attack)

 

lets say the troop A deals 500+ damage to an enemy X...
the troop B deals 1000+ damage to the same enemy X...

 

in other words...

the difference is bigger... :D

 

i think that's all for now :)


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Posted 30 August 2016 - 06:22 AM

i would like to update my post about this "Suicide Bomber"...
(actually i already updated my main post above)..
since i am currently experimenting and comparing the two training which is..

  • +3 attack
  • +2 accuracy, +2 attack
my conclusion is that...
+2 accuracy, +2 attack
deals more damage compare to the +3 attack training..
because Accuracy  really help increase the amount of damage
aside from its critical ability...
 
and if you compare the two troop with same level ...
the difference is doubled..
 
for example:
 
troop A: lv 40 training (1 accuracy, 125 attack)
troop B: lv 40 training (79 accuracy, 86 attack)
 
lets say the troop A deals 500+ damage to an enemy X...
the troop B deals 1000+ damage to the same enemy X...
 
in other words...
the difference is bigger... :D
 
i think that's all for now :)
https://www.youtube....h?v=Tzbme2tejU4
that bomber with accuracy gets more critical chance than normal? Or the accuracy itself got hidden damage enhancer on every normal damage?

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Posted 31 August 2016 - 01:10 PM

yes.. i already confirmed that accuracy really helps in increasing its damage :)

and this time..
i tried to reset all my suicide bomber from +3 attack to +2 accuracy, +2 attack

i will post a screenshot about this one later.. :)


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Posted 31 August 2016 - 10:04 PM

I've had a lot of fun with this build - especially against players who put up a lot of meatgrinder troops.



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Posted 01 September 2016 - 08:46 AM

ok guyz..

i have now the screenshot...
and this will explains everything i have mentioned earlier.. :)

 

a_zpsu4igfayq.jpg

 

in this screenshot above..

2 Scouts are being compared..

 

1 (above) is trained by +3 Attack...

and the other one (below) are trained by +2 Accuracy / +2 Attack

 

they only have 1 training level gap..

but that does not affect the conclusion...

 

b_zpsv9gfcx1c.jpg

 

as you can see in the 2nd screenshot..

it shows the difference of their damages towards the same enemy..

 

this explains that their difference is almost doubled..

or lets say.. a big difference..

 

here is the full video..

 

 

oh by the way...

try to check again the 2nd screenshot..

 

did you notice something? :D

 

lets say:

a_zps8ztgdzbd.jpg

 

 represents the center of the target

1-3 are the splash damages...

(assuming that the enemy in position 1-3 has the same ARMOR)

 

in this screenshot..

i have noticed that ...

the main damage (center) is subtracted by 25% (position 1), 50% (position 2), 75% (position 3) damage...

 

400 * .25 = 100 (position 1)

400 * .50 = 200 (position 2)

400 * .75 = 300 (position 3)

 

400 - 100 = 300 (actual damage in position 1)

400 - 200 = 200 (actual damage in position 2)

400 - 300 = 100 (actual damage in position 3)

 

and lastly...

try to check the 2nd screenshot (2nd image below)...

 

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main damage is 1162...

and since the enemy target are all in position 1..

that means the main damage will only diminished by 25%

 

1162 * .25 = 290.5  (this will be subtracted from the main damage 1162)

 

1162 - 290 = 871

 

amazing!! .. isn't? :D

 

well...another FACTS has been Revealed :D

 

 

ok thats all for now..

:)


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Posted 01 September 2016 - 01:54 PM

ok guyz..
i have now the screenshot...
and this will explains everything i have mentioned earlier.. :)
 
a_zpsu4igfayq.jpg
 
in this screenshot above..
2 Scouts are being compared..
 
1 (above) is trained by +3 Attack...
and the other one (below) are trained by +2 Accuracy / +2 Attack
 
they only have 1 training level gap..
but that does not affect the conclusion...
 
b_zpsv9gfcx1c.jpg
 
as you can see in the 2nd screenshot..
it shows the difference of their damages towards the same enemy..
 
this explains that their difference is almost doubled..
or lets say.. a big difference..
 
here is the full video..
https://youtu.be/GuBby3T6eYM
 
 
oh by the way...
try to check again the 2nd screenshot..
 
did you notice something? :D
 
lets say:a_zpsazdefzrl.jpg
 
 represents the center of the target
1-3 are the splash damages...
(assuming that the enemy in position 1-3 has the same ARMOR)
 
in this screenshot..
i have noticed that ...
the main damage (center) is subtracted by 25% (position 1), 50% (position 2), 75% (position 3) damage...
 
400 * .25 = 100 (position 1)
400 * .50 = 200 (position 2)
400 * .75 = 300 (position 3)
 
400 - 100 = 300 (actual damage in position 1)
400 - 200 = 200 (actual damage in position 2)
400 - 300 = 100 (actual damage in position 3)
 
and lastly...
try to check the 2nd screenshot (2nd image below)...
 
c_zps2qnnrzfh.jpg
main damage is 1162...
and since the enemy target are all in position 1..
that means the main damage will only diminished by 25%
 
1162 * .25 = 290.5  (this will be subtracted from the main damage 1162)
 
1162 - 290 = 871
 
amazing!! .. isn't? :D
 
well...another FACTS has been Revealed :D
 
 
ok thats all for now..
:)

FEED BRAIN WITH THE FACTS! hehe well said. Thanks im gonna add accu now on my suicide bomber hehe

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Posted 03 September 2016 - 06:44 PM

I would like to share my very own Squad..

Suicide Bombers featuring El Comandante :)

 

Pocket Troop's Suicide Bombers Collection :)

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Posted 06 September 2016 - 11:53 PM

This reminds me of another strategy I've seen some top players user: +2 HP/+2 armor troopers with lv 4+ FN2000. 

 

1. Get rid of all troops that do large damage

2. Turtle the rest with poison damage

 

This strategy works well against players who uses a lot of +2 HP/+2 armor spies/troopers. But you have to place this trooper last so he shoots the poison ammo at whatever trooper is remaining in the battle.

 

The caveat is that you have to either 1. push teleporting meatgrinder spies away from the trooper so he uses his poison shot or 2. kill them before it's the trooper's turn for the same reason as 1.



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Posted 08 September 2016 - 11:06 AM

Are suicide bombers best strategy for thunderstruck and top guns?

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Posted 08 September 2016 - 11:19 AM

Are suicide bombers best strategy for thunderstruck and top guns?

 

 

I used Suicide Bombers in:

  • ThunderStruck
  • Green Inferno
  • Boss Missions and other Misions
  • Top Guns
  • PVP Battle

 

Pocket Troop THUNDERSTRUCK (fts Suicide Bombers and Comandante)

https://www.youtube....FvOF1NZIE0OQWXs

 

in my opinion...

YES...

BUT your troop must be equal or close/nearer to the required recommendation..

so that the suicide bombers will catch up in terms of stats..

 

 

currently the average level of my suicide bombers is at 41 training

and my suicide bombers reached the thunderstruck 24 ...

without any help of other Pocket Troop Friends (without hiring)

and the recommendation training at thunderstruck 24 says lv90+..

 

that is a lot of Level Gap there...

so in my opinion...

if my suicide bombers reached closer to lv 90 training...

 

then i believe it will reached further than ThunderStruck 24 ...

 

 

lastly...

Suicide Bombers become effective in PVE and PVP...

when used wisely...

 

Suicide Bombers are not Limited in using their Vacuum Grenades..

but they can be very deadly and dangerous when they use their shotguns too..

(I used Suicide Bombers in all my current PVP Battles....)

 

and what i can say is that they are very effective...

if you watched my latest PVP Battles using Suicide Bombers..

then that will explains everything what i said...

 

My Pocket Troop PVP Battle

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Posted 08 September 2016 - 12:24 PM

Hmm ok thanks. Are you making top100 in thunderstruck and tops guns at brigadier?

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Posted 08 September 2016 - 12:25 PM

With your current troop training lvls

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Posted 08 September 2016 - 12:40 PM

Hmm ok thanks. Are you making top100 in thunderstruck and tops guns at brigadier?

 

in my current rank Brigadier ...

i am not able to  make it at the top100

 

because the competition in Thunder Struck and Top Guns at Brigadier

are very Hard.. only the High Level Commanders can compete there..

 

 

i started playing pocket troops  on June 2016  until now..

and thats about more than 3 months playing...

 

i was at the top100 when i was rank Colonel...

 

and when you reached the rank Brigadier...

all the Top Players in Pocket Troops Globally are in there

players or the pioneering players who played since the release of the Pocket Troops are all there ...

so imagine the Level Gap there :D

its tremendous .. :D

 

 

anyway..but soon i will make it there ;)

when my troops are ready ...


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